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Project info Bundesliga FAQ 
(the Bundesliga FAQ can be found below this information)
The Story
Bundesliga FAQ has been one of the most successful subprojects called into life by The Shot. When it was born there was no consistently updated English speaking source about the Bundesliga on the entire web and even today it is one of a few if not the only that would deal with background informations if still updated.
What is the idea of this project
Many questions especially by writers and researchers still dropping in show there is a request for such a source. German football clubs should be keen to present themselves. Especially as this source has been valuable to others who write about football themselves, as the sometimes very specific questions show. But also questions like 'where can I buy a ticket for...'  are among the mails coming in.
Why is it not updated and what can be done 
When I could not manage the work at this project without support anymore I contacted the German FA to help me but they did not even answer. Maybe they are not interested in the way the Bundesliga is regarded in the world but I hardly can believe it. Anyway the work at this subsite has been suspended for the moment as I think German football has enough money to establish something themselves.
The point has been made: the right idea at the right time 
(*The Shot works as a display for the idea factory of ifuz.net)
To revive the project a cooperation with somebody will be essential. Maybe you want to take part? Then please mail. Thank You.
You can still pose your FAQ questions but please understand that there is about a 50:50 chance they'll become answered or forwarded as The Shot receives too many mails on some days. Just try a second time, you're welcome.
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THE BUNDESLIGA FAQ

 
The 3-monthly update with questions around the Bundesliga 
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General questions  fixture lists, about names, maps, salaries, history, links, merchandising
 

You have questions you like to get treated? MAIL here.


THE BUNDESLIGA FAQ MAGAZINE:

   
June 99 The TV market in Germany and
A short review on the 18 clubs performance in the 1998/99 season 
March 99 situation in Germany: league split over TV contracts, the Superleague, and the German football in a slump - apart from Bayern and Kaiserslautern
December 98 situation the top, what is going on in the National team (2), Bor.Mönchengladbach, why so popular? will they survive?
October 98 The first Chinese player, what is going on in the National team, will Bayern break away?
August 98 who are Kaiserslautern? / Bayern & Co.: what had been expected 97/98, who has disappointed and who has surprised, what's with 98/99 ?
The 97/98 Archives all topics and questions of the two-monthly updates of last season, Bayern, Trapattoni, Cologne, Dortmund, Ali Daei & many more

 
The Bundesliga History FAQ when was Bundesliga born and what are the top established teams?


 
 




 


 
General questions (brought up by readers)
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when was Bundesliga born and who are the top established teams?
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This is only a short excerpt. There is a more detailed answer in the new section:
The Bundesliga History FAQ

The Bundesliga was formed 1963 by granting licenses to 16 teams, later it became 18 teams. Before 1963, the top division was divided into regional groups.

There is only 1 team left that has been in Bundesliga all the years: Hamburger SV.
The following clubs have been in Bundesliga all the years and only absend 2 or less years:
Werder Bremen, 1.FC Kaiserslautern, VfB Stuttgart, Eintracht Frankfurt (all 1963 beginners)
1.FC Köln (Cologne) (in Bundesliga from 1963 to 1998, now fighting in 2nd Bundesliga for repromotion)
Bayern Munich, Borussia Mönchengladbach (in Bundesliga constantly since 1965).
Borussia Dortmund had been among the 1963 formers and absent for 4 consecutive years in the 1970s.

The biggest names among the others: Schalke 04, 1.FC Nürnberg, Hertha BSC Berlin, and Munich 1860.

The most succesful clubs since birth of Bundesliga 1963: 
Bayern Munich (13 championships) 
Borussia Mönchengladbach (5 championships)
Hamburger SV, Werder Bremen (3 championships)
1.FC Köln, 1.FC Kaiserslautern, VfB Stuttgart, Borussia Dortmund (2 championships)
Munich 1860, 1.FC Nürnberg, Eintracht Braunschweig (1 championship)

Bayern Munich is the only club that has been able to convert a dominance of a team of a particular era into long term success producing structures. 
 

where can I get a map?
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nowhere else on the web (at least not found), so... 
here it is (will open in a new window)
(map with Bundesliga cities)
where can I get links to the clubs official sites and fanzines?
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a nice overview on all the internet-adresses of Bundesliga you can find
at
http://www.usm.de/liga_neu/liga_1/index.htm for Bundesliga
http://www.usm.de/liga_neu/liga_2/index.htm for 2nd Bundesliga
then click on the club and pick the one that is listed under 'offizielle
sites'.
this means 'official site'.
where can I get a fixture list?
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http://www.ran.de/pub/fussball/51/spielplan-daten.htm
is URL for a fixture list for BUNDESLIGA

http://www.ran.de/pub/fussball/52/spielplan-daten.htm
is URL for a fixture list for 2nd BUNDESLIGA

(it is not in English but it makes no difference
there are only the names of the clubs and the dates

Example:
22.05.99 15:30 VfL Wolfsburg - Bayer Leverkusen

means:
May 22nd, 1999, 3:30 p.m., Wolfsburg plays at home against Leverkusen)
 

where can I get merchandising stuff like shirts?
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sorry, still no decent url found, maybe you can help me out. 
The only idea I see is to approach the website of the particular club and look there. This kind of sale surprisingly does not seem to be done seriously via WWW yet.
what do the names 'Arminia' and 'Borussia' mean?
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 It took some time to find out from one source
and check with another, but maybe somebody can add or adjust this information:

 1899 years ago (The year 9 due to the calender the Western world is using) a
chief of a people related to the Germans defeated the Romans in a famous
battle. His name was Arminius.
In the 19th century (or maybe even before), when Germany did not exist as a
real state, many groups, leagues, and clubs were formed. Some were student
organisations and some were sports and football clubs and some even used
sports as an alibi for political gatherings and activities.
 They began using such names to express their relation also to the question
of a united and maybe republican Germany. 'Arminia' is the female form of this name 'Arminius' but it might be a little too much guessing into it when saying that 
'Arminia' stands more or less for a German idea in a time when there had been no united Germany.
 Another name among others is 'Borussia', what is a latin name for 'Preußen'
(Preußen had been a part of Germany) and so not the symbol for the united
Germany but more for a split one (Preußen had war for example with Bavaria
1866).

 So it sounds very political, but this all is really forgotten today. For
most Germans Arminia and Borussia are just names of football clubs with no
other association at all.

 (thanks to Stefan from the fanzine Um halb vier war die Welt noch in Ordnung)

what are the salaries for average players?
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 This is not so easy to answer as things like salaries in Germany are not reveiled publicly unlike for example USA. Now everything here is an estimation and might vary even more than +100% or -50%.
 Salaries seldomly get disclosed, so there are many rumours. Those rumours do not distinguish whether a person gets a certain sum guarantueed or if he plays all matches etc.
 Now also: what is an average player? A player that appears about in 50% of the matches (nowadays players are more rotated) is said to get at least 200,000-300,000$ a year. But what does this include?
 The salaries are splitted in a basic salary, a bonus for each match played, a bonus for a certain number of matches played a year, bonusses for wins or points, bonusses for a certain position in the table, bonusses for reaching particular international competitions, bonusses for advancing in those or other cup competitions etc. Then players sometimes get money for showings with their sponsors, turning up at
small clubs or shops to sign photographs, appearing in talk shows or other tv programs etc.
 Then half of it takes the tax man or the obligatory social insurances.This alltogether leaves a lot of space for fantasies about the real figures.
 Among the seldomly unveiled numbers were 3,000,000 $ for the Bundesliga top player Stefan Effenberg at Mönchengladbach (per year), and around 200,000 $ for even below-average Bundesliga players at Eintracht Frankfurt 2 years ago and Berti Vogts as National team coach. But what really is payed remains a bit in the fog. As for example now it becomes usual that fixed sums are payed now with every renewal of contracts whether the player changes club or not (to avoid that he just changes club because of such a fixed payment). Also cars, houses, appartments become 'little extras'.
how are the matches broadcasted?
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 There is a more detaled analyses of the TV market in the June99 magazine edition. Here a short summary completely neglecting the backgrounds:
In 1998/99 it was the following:
2 matches were on fridays, usually kick-off 8 p.m.
SAT1 televised a summary program from 10.15 p.m. to 11 p.m. including several commercial breaks. Usually summaries are about 10 minutes long including many off-pitch shots and slowmotions what leaves hardly more than 3 minutes unrepeated match action. Adding interviews.
6 matches were on saturdays, kick-off 3.30 p.m.
SAT1 televised a summary program from 6. p.m. to 8 p.m.. The length and style of the summaries are similar. 
1 match was on sundays, kick-off 6 p.m.
SAT1 televised a summary of first half and second half seperated in a program that ran from 7 p.m. to 8.15 p.m.. 
 More and shorter summaries other programs (i.e. regional) were showing later Saturdays and Sundays. the same days.
 SAT1 was allowed to show 5 matches live, 2 in the first, and 3 in the second half of the season. Thoser matches then took place at special times.
 The contract for SAT1 has been about 90 million EURO per year. (1 EURO is about 1 $).

 Added to this two matches, one on Friday, one on Saturday, were shown live on the encrypted pay TV station 'Premiere', a third one on a digital channel of the same station. A subscription is about 25 EURO per month.
 The contract for Premiere has been about 75 million EURO per year. 


 
 
 

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